Switching between programs turns other fixtures off

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Marc Clerx

Switching between programs turns other fixtures off

Post by Marc Clerx »

When I switch between 2 programs or scenes, my dimmers switch off.
I'm working with DVC3-Gold, with a Windwows7-64Bit OS. I connected a 16ch DMX-controller (JB Systems) SCM-1 Scenemaster to DMX-In.
My setup was a small show with 2 (JB-Systems) DJ-Bars, 2 (HQ-Power) Exciter scanners, 2 (Briteq) Expobanks and 12 x PAR64
I made groups for the scanners, DJ-Bar programs, DJ-Bar Colors, Expobanks, Pars, etc.
Some of the scenes where imported from DVC2, others are from one of the beta versions of DVC3 and others are made in DVC3.
The problem:
When I switch from one scanner program to another, (in the same group) all other fixtures in other groups are going off. Same problem when I switch between 2 scenes or programs not in the same group.
When I move a fader from a PAR channel, or a dimmerchannel from the DJ-bars, the original value is back again.
What did I do wrong?
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Post by nijst001 »

In your properties there is a function 'Release mode'. This will set by you at 'group'. If you set this to 'off', the other scenes wont go off anymore
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Post by Marc Clerx »

Thx for the reply but my problem is that I need the possiblity to switch between de scenes in one group en also between different groups. So its necessary to set the properties to "group". But when I do so, one program turns off other programs. And I don't want that.
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Post by nijst001 »

The release mode turns off the other scenes. Turn this to off and see if this is what you realy want
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Post by nobby99 »

I posted a similar problem under default scene properties. I originally thought that it might be due to the import of old DVC2 scenes, but it appears to be quite different. And it also seems to be different between a native dvc3 and an converted (dvc2) one.

I set up a completely new show in DVC3 including all fixtures. Then I created 2 scenes with the same fixture (Eurolight LED Bar 252/10 with 3 segments each), but different DMX values. The reason is that I use a large number of them in alternate order of the DMX values for wall washing. There are 8 colors each, each color is a single scene that I can change color by the push of a button (midi). There are also scenes that use all 3 segments.

I selected the fixture in the single fixture window, activated the one with the lower DMX values and created the 8 color scenes. Fine. Then I deactivated the first one and proceeded with no. 2. Fine. All release to OFF.

When I tried to run both bars then one scene turned off again.
Looking closer at this I saw that some faders in both bars (DMX ranges) were marked “?” And when I activated one bar while the other was ON then the dimmer value went down to 0.

Then I looked into the values from the “general view” (all fixtures). I turned one bar on and found that values of the other bar were activated (ON) also – although they should be OFF. Changing in this view everything manually to what should be ON and what OFF at a given time, it works smoothly so far (have to test with more fixtures). In the live mode, now all faders are set to AUTO (active) and to OFF (not active).
I hope this gives a bit more insight into the problem.

However, this did not work with my existing projects and I have not been able to figure out what's about. I have created a screen movie with ScreenCam and sent it to the support.

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Post by nobby99 »

I have built a new show from scratch with DVC3. Everything worked as expected including midi.

Testing this show again today the whole show was again corrupted: When I switched a new scene on the provious one faded itself out.

I do have midi functionality allocated to both scenes (triggering) as well as individual faders. However, I do not see the faders changing to LTP when switching from midi to scenes.

EDIT: Spending some more time on the problem I discovered that faders of other fixtures/scenes are set to ON, value=0. This explains that they are turned off when a scene is activated as it sets these faders to 0. Then I set all other faders manually to OFF, and then it worked again.

How can this happen? It only applies to faders that I have also linked with midi commands: In addition to fixed scenes (chasers) I have allocated the macro/program, dimmer and flash faders additionally to midi in oder to have quick access to the inbuilt automatic color change programs. But then somehow all the "additionally midi faders" are always set to ON. This seems to happen at the next start of DVC3, since it does not show up during the original programming and run for the first time, only after restart.

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Marc Clerx

Post by Marc Clerx »

@Nobby99: THX for the reply.
This describes also my problem, I think. Only in my case, I use DMX-in while You used midi-in. I will check later today, after work, if the problem in my setup looks the same.

@SimonB: I think we are at a point where we hopefully looking forward to Your reply... :wink:
Any idea what we are doing wrong?
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Post by nobby99 »

I sent my project file to Daslight support - hoping that they can a look at the data base is of help.

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