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DL5 resets Time values after startup

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:50 am
by Gigdean
Hello together,

I've created some super-scenes in DL5 to get my lighting synchronized to songs.
When I add a scene to a super-scene I adjust the wait time (and fade time if necessary) of the steps in that scene, so the steps match perfectly to the beat of the song (e.g. wait time 0,43s). After closind and opening DL5 again, all the adjustements in the steps of ALL scenes are reseted to the next value divisible by 4 (e.g. 0,43s -> 0,40s or 0,81s -> 0,80s).
This is pretty frustrating, since I spend a lot of time to get it working perfectly :(
I tried this with DL5 5.0.5 as well as Dl5 5.0.3 and I even checked whether the "save as" option would have an impact but it was always the same issue. All other minor changes like hiding a bank are saved successfully though.

Is there any possibility to fix this? Since it seems to be a parameter issue, can I maybe adjust something in the settings?
Or if this really is a bug which i can't fix by myself, is there another option to get the steps synchronized to the beat of my songs in that super-scene?

Best regards from Germany
Andreas

Re: DL5 resets Time values after startup

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:13 am
by willm
Hi Andreas,

There are a few things to note about this behaviour which will hopefully help to make sense of why this is occurring for you:

Firstly, Daslight sends DMX data at a specific frame rate which is standard for DMX. This speed is why we can only set a step to a minimum of 0.04 seconds, and why every wait/fade time needs to be an increment of 0.04 seconds.

There is however a slight bug in the software that we have noticed because of this thread which is that you are able to type in a value that does not conform to the DMX frame rate (i.e. 0.05 seconds). This in itself should not be possible to do, so there is a bug there which I have reported to the devs to look into. This is also why when reloading a file you will see the values snap to their nearest available value.

Now to look at some solutions! The easiest way of doing this is to get your lights (as you may have already done) to the closest value possible. Note that these will not necessarily be 'perfect' due to the DMX frame rate, but the most any step will be off by is 0.03 seconds which is pretty negligible. If you really want the scene to start and without the max 0.03 seconds offset, you can copy/paste all of your steps and adjust one of the steps to be + or - 0.04 seconds (if the offset is 0.01 second, you only need to do this once, if 0.02 seconds then twice, if 0.03 seconds then 3 times). Now you can go to your Super Scene and set the grid type to 'Beats', then set the desired tempo. Now you can add your scene to start on each exact beat for better synchronisation.

Hope this helps!

Kind regards,
Will

Re: DL5 resets Time values after startup

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:47 pm
by Gigdean
Hey Will,

Thanks for that quick reply. I actually didn't knew about the frequency of dmx signals so thanks for that info, that helps understanding the matter a lot!
I already tried your proposal to solve my issue and it works fine for me and I'll keep doing it that way.
Many thanks :D

Best regards
Andreas