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Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:26 am
by rickyr0
Hey,

is it somehow possible to change the color of a ColorFX with an Midi-Controller while in live mode and playing the scene?

I know I can create a new scene with a static color but I can't merge the static scene with the ColorFX so that the FX is playing and with the seperate scene I choose wich color I want.

Any ideas here? Thanks for help!
Ricky

Re: Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 2:52 am
by rickyr0
artyfunk wrote:i think only via the Mixer RGB. But not the Color Window.


I know that I can override the colors. But it won’t affect the FX. For example I do the Knight Rider Effect, if I change the color afterwards it changes the black of the fx and not the actual color. So basically I choose a color and the effect is written on top.

Re: Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:33 am
by passoutster
rickyr0 wrote:Hey,

is it somehow possible to change the color of a ColorFX with an Midi-Controller while in live mode and playing the scene?

I know I can create a new scene with a static color but I can't merge the static scene with the ColorFX so that the FX is playing and with the seperate scene I choose wich color I want.

Any ideas here? Thanks for help!
Ricky


Hello, you can do this in the latest version (within some limits), by mapping the Color Pallete system within ColorFX and Color Mapping FX *1.
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If you map to a fader, each Color Pallette will correspond to a fader %value(small range of values) from 0-100%. Mapping to a Touch Screen Fader, you can find the exact % Value for a pallette you like *2, be it a default or user created pallette, then use that value to create a button value mapping *3.
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I had to delete the Touch Fader mapping before creating the button maps, it did not like being dual mapped. You can create up to 10 midi mappings and 10 touch mappings on the Color Pallette. I have implemented this by creating a bank of Color Fx, then a set of buttons (Target=Bank, Mode=Value Value=%value of the desired pallette) *4.
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I press the button to choose the pallette I want, then I chose the FX type I want, and it will play in the chosen pallette.

Re: Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:48 am
by rickyr0
That sounds great! I will try that out as soon as possible!!

Re: Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:38 pm
by rickyr0
passoutster wrote:
rickyr0 wrote:Hey,

is it somehow possible to change the color of a ColorFX with an Midi-Controller while in live mode and playing the scene?

I know I can create a new scene with a static color but I can't merge the static scene with the ColorFX so that the FX is playing and with the seperate scene I choose wich color I want.

Any ideas here? Thanks for help!
Ricky


Hello, you can do this in the latest version (within some limits), by mapping the Color Pallete system within ColorFX and Color Mapping FX *1.
a1a2.png

If you map to a fader, each Color Pallette will correspond to a fader %value(small range of values) from 0-100%. Mapping to a Touch Screen Fader, you can find the exact % Value for a pallette you like *2, be it a default or user created pallette, then use that value to create a button value mapping *3.
a3.png

I had to delete the Touch Fader mapping before creating the button maps, it did not like being dual mapped. You can create up to 10 midi mappings and 10 touch mappings on the Color Pallette. I have implemented this by creating a bank of Color Fx, then a set of buttons (Target=Bank, Mode=Value Value=%value of the desired pallette) *4.
a4.png

I press the button to choose the pallette I want, then I chose the FX type I want, and it will play in the chosen pallette.



How did you manage to map the touch fader to the ColorFX? Everytime I select the ColorFX and switch to the Touch Tab the selection gets deleted.

Re: Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:08 pm
by passoutster
rickyr0 wrote:How did you manage to map the touch fader to the ColorFX? Everytime I select the ColorFX and switch to the Touch Tab the selection gets deleted.


Yeah this happened to me too, think it is a new bug that cropped up. Detach the Touch View,
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and position both views so you can access the Touch View w/o leaving the Control View of the main program.
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It seems like the program forgets that you are trying map whenever you leave the Control View.

Re: Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:27 pm
by rickyr0
How did you manage to map multiple buttons for the color selection? Everytime when wanna map a 2nd button, the 1st gets deleted :/

Re: Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:39 pm
by passoutster
rickyr0 wrote:How did you manage to map multiple buttons for the color selection? Everytime when wanna map a 2nd button, the 1st gets deleted :/


Hey!
Once you get your first binding on the palette thingy, right click it and select duplicate *1.
This will create a new "binding zone" (white little box, i have no idea what to call them). Select that new "binding zone" so its got the dashed line border around it *2, then click the button you want to bind that "binding zone" to. You can keep duplicating the "binding zones" up to 10, then you get really tiny little white boxes *3! Just remember to rebind them as the duplication will keep them bound to your first button until you change it.
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Re: Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:03 pm
by passoutster
Here's a video of the full process, sorry I am bad at explaining, hopefully the video will help with setup!

https://youtu.be/Pdn6LllkKdc

Re: Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:12 pm
by rickyr0
Thank you. this works quite well!

Re: Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:54 am
by agreementgateau
passoutster wrote:Here's a video of the full process, sorry I am bad at explaining, hopefully the video will help with setup!

https://youtu.be/Pdn6LllkKdc retro bowl

Thanks for sharing, this is really what I needed

Re: Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:25 am
by passoutster
rickyr0 wrote:Thank you. this works quite well!

agreementgateau wrote:Thanks for sharing, this is really what I needed


Happy it helped!

Re: Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:46 pm
by UNITevents
Hello,
i am preparing my show at a different PC which i use for the live show.
What file do I need to copy, so that the changed color palattes keeps the same?

I tried _global.ini but it does not worked

Re: Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:14 pm
by S.lellwitz
I mean in the directory, c:\user\documents
There is another folder daslight, in this you can also find the color palettes as far as I can remember (I can't get to the PC at the moment)

Re: Change color in live mode via Midi Controller

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:58 pm
by UNITevents
Thank you!!