Midi on DVC 3

[nobby99]

Hi, how does the midi functionality work? I tried to allocate a dimmer fader to midi output to BCF-2000, but the result is just on/off like with DVC 2. Has anyone tested DVC 3 with midi?
Regards, Nobby99

[simonB]

Hi

Right click the scene and select "Enable Dimmer Fader"
Right click the dimmer fader, then move the fader on your BCF

I've just tested it with my BCF and it's working fine

[nobby99]

...OK - I am away until next Thu and will try again then...
Nobby99

[Florian Rheinard]

Hi,

I have also a question to use the midi function: I use an Elation Midicon. The scenes and the dimmer and speed faders I could link with the Midicon. But if I tried to link a fader from a DMX channel via Midi it does not work. I have clicked under the fader and set modus to MIDI and insert in the menu the MIDI-channel data.

Maybe I forget something.

Sincerly
Florian

P.S.: in the new beta from 26/01/2012 the midi faders even do not work.

[nobby99]

@Simon: Thank you, I have briefly tested it and it works.
Nobby99

[nobby99]

Hi

Right click the scene and select "Enable Dimmer Fader"
Right click the dimmer fader, then move the fader on your BCF

I've just tested it with my BCF and it's working fine

I do not have my BCF at hand at the moment, but I am working on a show. Therefore my question: Does or will DVC3 also support the 4 encoder groups of BCF-2000?

Regards, Nobby99

[simonB]

When you hit the encoder groups, the BCF will output different controller messages, so yes the encoder groups should work fine

[nobby99]

I have looked a bit more deeply into the midi functionality. One reason is to control MHs in small live shows (dances & comedy).

I am not too familiar with the midi protocol and not sure, if my problems come for DVC3 or the midi device (BCF-2000):

Particularly from preset 3 onwards some encoder wheels do not accept new values for DVC3 (in my case wheel 7 in preset 3). Sometimes – although allocated correctly – other functions become activated also when I move a fader or wheel. I also get confusing responses from the encoder groups 2-4. I had thought that the factory presets become overwritten, but this may not be the case.

Who can help?

Regards, Nobby99

[nobby99]

Let me explain thew problem with a sample for BCF-2000:

I have activated an Eurolite LED Bar on Preset1, Push button 7, and the speed on wheel 7 (all enc group 1). It works. Code is 0*7*68.
Then I moved to Preset 3 and activated on slider 1 the PAN for my MH. The code is again 0*7*68, and with the PAN consequently the speed of the Eurolite bar changes also.

This happens with some controls, but not with all.
What is wrong or have I done wrong?

[Goldy1907]

I have a Problem with activating MIDI in the latest Version.

How i activate Midi in single Faders?
When I open the Output Mode Setting Window and choose Midi after that the Fader Shows off and dont work with BCF.

Is Midi Feedback already activated?

[simonB]

noby99
check what MIDI values are being output form your BCF when you use the different encoder groups. Use some midi monitoring software to check. It sounds like your controller is outputting the same values.

Goldy1907
To activate MIDI on an output fader, select the output mode settings window and then move the MIDI fader on your console to learn the command
There is no MIDI feedback in DVC3.

[Goldy1907]

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********NEW FEATURES********
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possibility to rotate multibeam fixture 90, 180, 270 degrees in group window
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position fan effect
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it is possibile now to add DMX shortcuts to scenes in shortcut manager but not for other actions
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the possibility to merge scenes
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a channel priority where it works with scenes AND MIDI or DMX
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midi feedback
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editor auto scroll..if you have a long list of scenes and need to drag one up to the top
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all fixtures in the fixture window to light up when an effect is playing, not just the selected one
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a button in the group window called "rearrange fixture order", you can then select your fixtures in the correct order. Quicker than setting this on the setup tab
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the ability to add a jpg/icon to a button
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possibility to add some fields to the table on the editor tab
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Okay than i understand it in a wrong way. What do you mean with that Midi Feedback above?

[Richard CSL]

Midi feedback should move the motorised sliders on a BCF up and down to match the values of the assigned dmx channel. or the current speed of a scene, as per stored chanel values

[Goldy1907]

Hey Richard CSL

Ok i mean with MIDI Feedback the same because of that i bought me a BCF.

Goldy1907
To activate MIDI on an output fader, select the output mode settings window and then move the MIDI fader on your console to learn the command
There is no MIDI feedback in DVC3.

_______________________________________________________________________________

********NEW FEATURES********
_______________________________________________________________________________

possibility to rotate multibeam fixture 90, 180, 270 degrees in group window
------------------------------------
position fan effect
------------------------------------
it is possibile now to add DMX shortcuts to scenes in shortcut manager but not for other actions
------------------------------------
the possibility to merge scenes
------------------------------------
a channel priority where it works with scenes AND MIDI or DMX
------------------------------------
midi feedback
------------------------------------
editor auto scroll..if you have a long list of scenes and need to drag one up to the top
------------------------------------
all fixtures in the fixture window to light up when an effect is playing, not just the selected one
------------------------------------
a button in the group window called "rearrange fixture order", you can then select your fixtures in the correct order. Quicker than setting this on the setup tab
------------------------------------
the ability to add a jpg/icon to a button
------------------------------------
possibility to add some fields to the table on the editor tab
------------------------------------

Okay than i understand it in a wrong way. What do you mean with that Midi Feedback above?

[Richard CSL]

I have discussed this with Simon and I believe that it is planned, DVC3 is in beta format at the moment , the developers are working their way through our wish lists.