live mode: independent waiting time?

[McTom]

Hello all,
I am new to Daslight 4 and installed the software for testing purposes. Until now I use an old school DMX hardware mixer. But I saw some tutorials of Daslight 4 on YouTube and there are some quite interesting advantages compared to my actual hardware solution So I am thinking to change to the Daslight solution incl. the DMX interface.
I do have some questions but to keep the overview, I will address them in different threads.

One very important thing I am missing on Daslight compared to my hardware mixer is the possibility to change the waiting time during the live show, without having any influence on the fading time. I am using LED lights and when I change their colours for example red to blue, a long fading time will result in a little rainbow effect. Fading times >0,3s do show unwanted effects on LED lights, when you change the colours.
I am using some scenes/chasers for different music and it looks great, but it is important to adjust the waiting time. On songs with fast beats it looks good with short waiting times, colours changing to the beat. And the same chaser does fit to a blues song when the waiting time is very long like 20s. Easy to adjust it on the fly with my DMX mixer, but I could not get it with Daslight: when I move the slider (the little one in live mode), it is changing the waiting time and the fading time together...
Would be helpfull, when an activated fade switch (the one in edit mode) would protect the fading time and is using the entered value always.
As I am doing the stage light for live bands in a small club, I mostly don't know the songs that will be played. That means, I need to be quit flexible.
Hope, there is a solution that I did not see until now and hope, I could express what I do mean good enough, as English is not my native language.
Kindest regards, Thomas

[Benno]

Hi McTom,

with Daslight: when I move the slider (the little one in live mode), it is changing the waiting time and the fading time together...
Would be helpfull, when an activated fade switch (the one in edit mode) would protect the fading time and is using the entered value always

It's not possible at present as the the Live speed fader changes both the fade time and the hold time. Nice idea though and I have added this to the future ideas list to be considered for a future version of Daslight.

In the meantime a work around would be to have a different Scene per step, add fade in and fade out, have each scene jumping to the next, map the same midi fader to all the Live speed faders in Daslight. This way when you change the Live speed the hold time will increase but the fade time will stay the same. See attached showfile that I have zipped and attached for example.

[McTom]

Thank you Benno,
I will try and test the fade example you posted.
And yes, would be great, if you could get this function into Daslight, I think, many customers like me who used hardware DMX mixer might miss this way to have live influence on the waiting time
Kindest regards, McTom

[McTom]

Hello Benno,
many weeks I did not answer, but shortly after I asked here about the possibility about independent waiting times, I bought a DVC Gold and using it for some lights like front light and dance floor lights. Wanted to check the reliability of this system with not using the main lights off the stage itself.
So far I had no issue with Daslight4 during many evenings of operation and live concerts

So the next step of course will be to run all our lights (including the live stage) together with Daslight.
I checked the sample you posted, but of course this is not a suitable solution when you have a wide range of different programs.

It would be really nice, when it would be possible to add a slider like the "master dimmer", that will control the waiting time. As fading times can be assigned at each scene (there is a switch already at the scene editor), I would expect the fading times would be protect by any other influence.
Maybe it would be also nice to add a waiting time switch and option at the scene editor, so everyone has the possibility to protect the waiting times when needed (switch "ON"). That might be good for some effects and moving heads programs.

Hope my wishes sound not to special for you, it is just the way I wrote with the first posting: As I don't know the songs the bands will play, I can't prepare any lights except having a lot off different sequences and start them on the fly... and then it is often needed to adjust the waiting times.

Hoping, this feature might be added in Daslight in the near future, so I can use it for the stage as well.

Kindest regards, Thomas

[Benno]

Hi Thomas, thanks for the message, glad Daslight 4 has been useful and reliable for you.

I understand your request and rest assured it has been added to the future ideas list. However we are no longer adding features to Daslight 4 so this would be a request to be considered for a future version so it's not something that would happen soon. Apologies that this was not to answer you were hoping for, we hope you continue enjoying using Daslight.

Kind regards

[McTom]

Hello Benno,
thanks for your answer.
Sorry again my response took loooong time again.
Sad to hear that there will be no solution with Dasllight4.
Since your last answer I did around 20 live shows and was always thinking, if I could swap completly to Daslight, but every evening tells me: no chance. Altering the waiting times separately from fading time is something, which is a basic function and really needed to run a live concert. For this I got big wheels to adjust these parameters on the fly with the hardware DMX mixer.
So I will only keep on using Daslight4 to operate the lights beside the live stage like for the area audience or the main front light.
Is there any idea when you will publish Daslight5? Round about? I really like the user interface and beside this missing function I am talking about here, Daslight seems to me a really good solution, although I can't use as the main solution at the moment for live music events. But I think it is worth to wait for
Kindest regards, Thomas

[Benno]

Hi Thomas,

Thanks for your feedback. We have many other projects in the pipeline so realistically we not going to release Daslight 5 for least a couple of years.

Kind reagrds

[orginq]

However we are no longer adding features to Daslight 4...

We have many other projects in the pipeline so realistically we not going to release Daslight 5 for least a couple of years.

So you mean this is it? I was really hoping that DVC4 was still under development because there are still so many features missing